that might be tempted to go join, you know, i.s.i.l. or the islamic state as they calm themselves. what he's trying to do is basically say look, it's okay, even if you don't have training are are not prepared for this environment, i made the leap and you can as well. unfortunately that is going to - he's going to have success with that. just to be fair, the person on the tape, he wasn't a normal or nice guys, he was arrested twice making. >> this is something you see with other folks that have joined jihadi organizations, they dabble, looking at an arkists and others. it's not that surprising there's something surprising that when people are drawn to the violent groups, there are two people, one they are attracted to an ideology, they are rejecting the social norms that they are in.